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 Twenty-three years on, he still attends narcotics anonymous meetings when the mood takes him. He knows many people swear by the 12-step programme, but he says it never did much for him. “The people who got me better were a little bit more meat and potatoes.” He talks about a time he was in rehab in Arizona and he met a couple of Vietnam veterans who were recovering addicts. “They said to me: ‘What’s going on with the smile? You need to lose that.’” What did they mean? “Well, a lot of people say to me: ‘You’re known for your smile.’ It’s a great defuser, a great way to hide shit. They saw me and stripped it back.” Cat That's What I Do I Do Yoga I Drink Tea and I Know Things Poster

When he returned to Wet Wet Wet in 2003, it wasn’t the same. “There’s uncharted ground at the beginning, a sense of wonder. I think we were always looking for that, but it never came back.” After Pellow quit the band again four years ago, the Liberty X singer Kevin Simm replaced him.

Pellow is happy with his solo career – and even happier with life in general. “A million great things have happened since I sobered up and a million shit things have happened, but I now go: ‘How do I deal with it? How do I attack that problem?’ I’ve got clarity.”

Photograph: David Levene/The Guardian

I ask him if there was one particular time when he realised he could get his life back under control. “Aye. The day I surrendered to being an addict and accepting that it’s bigger than you. You don’t try to fight it, you don’t look for a get-out.” He becomes animated and emotional. “I get up and I punch it in the face every morning. I’m like that: ‘How are you doing?’ Bang! And I own it. And I’m proud of it. Never mind the music and all the good stuff that goes along with that. The thing that sits on my mantelpiece isn’t defined by a Brit award or this or that – the thing I’m most proud of in my life is my sobriety.”

Marti Pellow’s new studio album Stargazer is out now on BMG

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