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 You really can't blame Democrats for anything in DC except being too feeble to stand up to the insanity of the current crop of Republican maniacs. The major financial problems this country has right now are the war and the tax cuts for the rich. Remember when this war was going to pay for itself? Any clue where that nine billion dollars of unaccounted-for reconstruction money (cash!!) went? You asked for examples earlier. Can you cite an historical example of a country that cut taxes while fighting a war? Tax-and-spend is the usual accusation against liberals. Even if that were true, the current crowd's policy of borrow-and-spend would be as Argentina to the liberals' Britain.

Now maybe you will be brave enough to return the courtesy and answer my question without some further goofy diversion:

1. If only an insulting manner made up for ignorance and weak logic, but alas.

2. Return what courtesy?

3. OK, I'll try to gather my courage lest you shame me some more:

"When did your life begin? At what moment do you think all genetic information is in place to create a human life? Does God [or your secular humanist equivalent] consider it a sin to intentionally snuff out innocent human life?"

You know, the reason nobody wants to answer your questions isn't that they are so brilliant and vexing but because it's a hard to take the sequence seriously when we lurch from Elementary School Philosophy to High School Sophomore Biology to Sunday School. And the snooty tone seems misplaced. But if you insist...

1. My life has, in some senses, begun many times. In others, it is beginningless and endless. What was your face before you were born? Five pounds of flax.

2. This question isn't really a question, because at a first approximation everyone pretty much accepts that the zygote contains the merged genes of the parents. This may or may not be true, but it's what is currently accepted.

3. I find the mixture of poetics and legalism to be toxic. But most people try avoid killing the innocent. I note that our current Resident seems less concerned about this than I would be.

Perhaps you imagine a syllogism here. Knock yourself out.

-F.

COMMENT #319 [Permalink]... Kevin said on 12/12/2005 @ 1:20 am PT...

Jesus didn't write the Bible. People did. People make mistakes.

COMMENT #320 [Permalink]... Jaxebad said on 12/12/2005 @ 2:23 am PT...

That's it? That's your answer? Your callous, flippant tone on such a serious topic is frightening. Every time I talk to a liberal I'm more convinced than ever that most are morally bankrupt.

And you, who make such rash judgements about people based on labels, aren't?

COMMENT #321 [Permalink]... Freedom Fan said on 12/12/2005 @ 8:28 am PT...

Jaxebad

Prove me wrong hero. Your turn to answer...

COMMENT #322 [Permalink]... Freedom Fan said on 12/12/2005 @ 8:52 am PT...

Jaxebad

For your reference, here are some previous liberal opinions on abortion:

1) Even talking about abortion is wrong; don't you realize the soul lives on regardless? So it doesn't really matter. Peace, love, kisses.

2) Well abortion may be wrong and we try to avoid it, but it doesn't really matter. There are more important things to worry about like implementing socialism to feed America's teeming millions of obese albeit malnourished kids (and also defeating any federal judge candidate who might possibly be pro-life).

So perhaps you're correct: Liberals are not amoral after all. Maybe you would like to choose one of the above. Or feel free to be creative and try to change the question.

COMMENT #323 [Permalink]... Fingal said on 12/12/2005 @ 9:28 am PT...

[Is abortion wrong?]

... Most people try avoid killing the innocent. I note that our current Resident seems less concerned about this than I would be....-Fingal

That's it? That's your answer? Your callous, flippant tone on such a serious topic is frightening. Every time I talk to a liberal I'm more convinced than ever that most are morally bankrupt.

Your bracketed summary is incorrect. I was not responding to the question, "Is abortion wrong?" I was responding to three other questions which for me do not add up to the one you now pose. If you want to claim a connection between those three answers and the abortion issue, go ahead and make the case; don't expect me to make your argument for you.

And don't mistake meticulous starched-collar legalistic logic for virtue.

-F.

COMMENT #324 [Permalink]... Fingal said on 12/12/2005 @ 9:40 am PT...

FreedomFan:

There are obese kids. There are malnourished kids. To some degree these categories overlap, because when your resources are severely limited you eat cheap stuff which can make you fat, but still leave you short of nutrition. So you eat more of the cheap stuff, because you are never satisfied.

There are also malnourished kids who are not fat. The obesity epidemic is largely among the middle and upper classes who have been induced to feed their kids supersized fast foods, and are affluent enough to keep doing it.

COMMENT #325 [Permalink]... Big K said on 12/12/2005 @ 10:20 am PT...

Kevin,

Kevin,

People physically wrote the words on paper and later assembled the smaller books into one called the Bible. So, your assessment is correct as far as that goes. The books that are listed in the Bible were arranged by scholars over the centuries to be the ones of most relevance, and all are considered inspired by God (that process I will not go into, since it is lengthy, but not secret. Look it up if you are curious). There may be more inspired books than collected in the Bible, for instance the Book of Enoch is not listed in the Old Testament, but is quoted by Christ. To make matters worse, there are various translations (the Douay-Rheims, various King James, and New American are some examples). To go even further some of the different versions omit certain books ( look for Tobias in your KJ versions and you will not find it). And on top of all that, people have different interpretations of the Bible. Ms. Cornell seams to think the Old Testament is of little value, others disagree. A broader case in point, there are 33000 different Protestant denominations in the US and counting, all with their own ideas on what is meant.