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I only mention Protestants because they are the largest (in terms of diversity, not raw numbers) out there. Catholics would only add one more group, and there are a few Eastern Orthodox churches and a couple of others I can not remember. But add those up and they will not change that 33000 estimate much, so I was trying to estimate but be factual in my approximation. We really do not know how many are out there.

And no, the pope was not the only source of information, ever. Before the Bible was printed and translated it was inaccessible since only the most educated could get a copy of it, and could read the Hebrew and Greek texts. Monks had to painstakingly copy every letter by hand (if you get a chance, try to get a look at those old copies, they are absolutely gorgeous for their artistry), so their numbers were limited even if you could read them.

Pardon the pun, but the Church has always been an open book on Her doctrine. She wants to appeal to intellectuals, and has in the past had some of the greatest minds in Her midst (hence one of my posts earlier mentions that). Looking at some of the older Saints and their writings you get a sense of what the Church has always taught.

As for Luther, he took issue with some of the Church teaching. Lax clergy, scandals, and the popes being obsessed with issues outside of their borders contributed to his angst, which the Church long ago conceded as valid points. Most notably he was upset that priests could not marry. This was of specific importance to him because he knocked up a nun. At the risk of peeving a few Lutherans here, I always thought if the Reformation happened today Luther would be another scandal in the Church, not a new religion. But hey. What do I know?

COMMENT #332 [Permalink]... Lydiacornell said on 12/12/2005 @ 2:31 pm PT...

Merifour --- I've written you before to say I am so grateful for you and the other souls on this blog who see the real picture and are humble enough to keep seeking enlightenment (no matter how much we learn, it's never over!)

Love, (God) is the fabric we are made of; God is within all of us --- we are all part of each other, all connected and our nature is Divine.

Fingal and Jaxebad --- Thank you for your wise words.

Freedom Fan: There's a great quote by William James in "Varieties of Religious Experience": To paraphrase: "Nothing will keep a man in everlasting ignorance as much as contempt prior to investigation."

COMMENT #333 [Permalink]... Merifour said on 12/12/2005 @ 11:15 pm PT...

Big K, I would love to see the copies of the old manuscripts. I have many books which may contain some of them, will have to do some looking. Thanks for your info.

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